That Was Us

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 6, Episode 8: “The Guitar Man.” Sterling K. Brown and co-host Ryan Michelle Bathe are joined in studio by the episode’s co-writer, Jake Schnesel, to discuss the making of the episode. As Kevin takes his twin babies to the family cabin on his own, he struggles with his confidence as a father. Meanwhile, Cassidy experiences an unexpected trauma response, and Nicky helps Kevin understand that sometimes the best thing you can do for someone is simply be there. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Jake Schnesel’s journey from assistant to writer, and how Dan Fogelman encouraged him to pursue his own writing career * The differences between writing for a drama like This Is Us and a comedy-mystery like Only Murders in the Building * The pressures and fears of working in a comedy writers’ room * Parental guilt, grand gestures, and a fan’s special trip with her daughter to see the hosts live * Ryan’s hilarious mispronunciations and Sterling’s stories…

This week on That Was Us, Sterling and co-host Ryan Michelle Bathe are joined in studio by Caitlin Thompson, who played Madison on This Is Us. From Madison’s evolution from comedic relief to a fully realized character, to the realities of navigating Hollywood as a woman and a mother, Caitlin reflects on her years on the show, her transition from acting to writing, and the experiences that have shaped her both personally and creatively. In this episode, Caitlin chats about: * Her transition from acting to writing and how her feature script Ohio Girl became her calling card as a writer * Her writing process and why she needs to feel personally invested in the stories she tells * Madison’s evolution from comedic relief hiding behind a mask to a fully dimensional character who found her voice * The meaning behind the saying “every baby comes with a loaf of bread” and how it connected to Caitlin booking a series regular role on This Is Us * The challenges of filming Season 5 while navigating postpartum life,…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 6, Episode 7: Taboo. As the Pearsons gather for Thanksgiving, Kate and Toby confront lingering tension and Rebecca makes an important decision about who will care for her as her illness progresses. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Their competitive nature and love of board games, especially Taboo * Their own relationships with food growing up and how those relationships have changed as parents * The challenges of navigating food and body image within families * The complicated dynamics of spending Thanksgiving with family They also break down the episode, including: * Rebecca choosing Kate to be in charge of her care if anything happens to Miguel, and Randall’s reaction * Rebecca and Miguel’s hilarious and revealing game of Taboo * Kate and Toby’s conflict over parenting and food * The different Thanksgiving timelines, including Rebecca’s childhood experiences with food and body image * Miguel telling Rebecca he needs to move to Houston and…

This week on That Was Us…another favorite segment of the pod, Chat Was Us! This time, we’re talking about something at the heart of so many This Is Us stories: marriage, partnership, and what it means to build a life together. And for this conversation, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris have brought along their spouses! Together, the six of them get candid about love, commitment, compromise, and all the ways a marriage evolves over time. In this episode, the conversation covers: - How each couple knew they wanted to build a life together - Whether marriage was always something they imagined for themselves - The memories they each hold onto from their wedding days - What they remember most about the first year of marriage - The ingredients they believe make for a successful marriage - How you navigate the fact that two people can change dramatically over the course of a marriage - The role compromise plays in a healthy partnership - How having children can change a marriage - The importance of continuing to choose…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 6, Episode 6: Our Little Island Girl, Part Two. Beth steps into her calling as a mentor, Kevin faces the consequences of his choices, and the Pearsons reckon with the people and experiences that have shaped who they’ve become. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * The TV shows and movies they’re watching right now, including Furious, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, Widow’s Bay, Ted Lasso, and Good Luck, Don’t Die * Their thoughts on Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey, including Samantha Morton’s standout performance * The mentors and teachers who shaped their careers and why teachers are so important * Redefining what success can look like and why there’s no one path to a fulfilling life They also break down the episode, including: * Beth finding her purpose at a dance academy * Beth mentoring Stacy and helping her get back on her feet after a difficult performance * Beth confronting her former dance teacher and making peace with her past * Kevin…

This week on That Was Us, we’re joined in studio by Lyric Ross, who grew up before our eyes as Deja Pearson on This Is Us. From booking the role at just thirteen to navigating life and her career as a young adult, Lyric reflects on her years on the show, the challenges that shaped her, and the person she’s becoming beyond Deja. In this episode, Lyric chats about: • Moving back to Los Angeles after returning to Chicago following This Is Us and what she hopes to find in this next chapter • Getting her start as an actor in Chicago and the childhood moment that first sparked her love of performing • Booking This Is Us at thirteen and Sterling’s memories of knowing she was the right person to play Deja • The work ethic her mother instilled in her and learning to trust herself as a performer • Cutting her hair for Deja and the complicated experience of navigating beauty, identity, and self-esteem as a young Black girl • Her journey from struggling with low self-esteem to seeing her own beauty and finding…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 6, Episode 5: Heart and Soul. As Rebecca opens herself up to life after loss, Kate and Rebecca navigate a painful shift in their relationship, Kevin searches for the right path forward, and Randall learns how hard it is to let go of the people you love. In this episode, the hosts chat about: - Jon and Chris' scripted sci-fi audio podcast - Chris Sullivan’s experience directing the episode and the “scaffolding” that came with directing a show he already knew so well - The cast members who got the chance to direct or write during the final season -The very important question: how do you actually pronounce “asterisk”? They also break down the episode, including: - Rebecca’s speed-dating experiment - Kate and Rebecca's fight and Ithe fallout that followed - Kate confronting Rebecca about her illness and the fear of leaving her alone with the kids - The meaning behind the episode’s title, “Heart and Soul” - Kevin reuniting with Cassidy and the harsh…

This week on That Was Us, we’re excited to welcome director Chris Koch, who returns to the podcast to take us behind the scenes of some of This Is Us’ most memorable episodes. Joined by guest co-host Jon Huertas, Chris shares his journey from making Super 8 films to building a long creative partnership with Dan Fogelman, and reflects on directing everything from comedy to some of the show’s most emotional moments. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Jon Huertas’ latest adventures, including farm life, directing, and his dreams of eventually owning a boat * Chris Koch’s first experiences making films and how a love of Super 8 led him toward directing * His unexpected path through advertising and branding at MTV, Nickelodeon, and Comedy Central * His longtime creative partnership with Dan Fogelman and how it has evolved across multiple shows * The differences between directing comedy and drama…and why the best lessons can come from both * Some of Koch’s favorite and most challenging This Is Us episodes,…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 6, Episode 4: “Don’t Let Me Keep You.” As Jack says goodbye to his mother, Marilyn, he begins to discover the life she built after leaving his father and confronts how much of her story he never knew. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Whether children can ever love their parents as much as parents love their children * Sterling’s memories of staying up late with his mom and the importance of simply being present with the people we love * How losing a parent can change the way we see them—not just as our parents, but as people with lives and stories of their own * The complicated feelings that can come with grief, including regret over the time we didn’t have * Why being fully present may be one of the greatest gifts we can give someone They also break down the episode, including: * Jack arriving at Marilyn’s home and realizing how much he didn’t know about her life * Meeting Mike, Marilyn’s boyfriend, and discovering the life she built…

This week on That Was Us…we’re back with another Chat Was Us! This time, inspired by the many caregiving stories throughout This Is Us, we’re tackling a topic that touches millions of families: what does it really mean to care for someone? Joined by caregiving advocate and storyteller Lydia Storie, hosts Mandy, Sterling, and Chris explore the realities of caregiving, why seeing these experiences represented on screen matters, and how storytelling can help people feel less alone.In this episode, the conversation covers: * Why caregiving is so often invisible—and why representation can change that * The research behind This Is Us’s caregiving storylines and how they impacted viewers * How seeing characters like Rebecca, Randall, Miguel, and Kate navigate care can open up conversations in our own lives * Rebecca taking agency over her end-of-life planning * Randall and Miguel’s honest conversation about needing a break from caregiving * Kate’s experience as both a parent and a caregiver * The importance of…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down Season 6, Episode 3: "Four Fathers." As Kevin adjusts to co-parenting, Randall faces the reality that Deja is growing up, and Kate and Toby struggle to stay connected amidst long distance. The episode explores parenthood, changing family dynamics, and the memories that stay with us long after the moment has passed. In this episode, the hosts chat about: Their favorite TV shows they're currently watching Travel habits, airplane comfort, and life on the road Parenting chaos and the challenge of juggling family life Managing fame while trying to maintain a sense of normalcy Celebrating the Emmy nominations for Paradise They also break down the episode, including: - Jack losing Kevin during the family's first trip to the movies and creating a new memory with an at-home sundae night - Jack learning that his mother has died just as the day comes to an emotional close Randall teaching Deja to drive and accidentally hearing - Malik's revealing text over Bluetooth - Beth…

This week on That Was Us…we’re back with another Chat Was Us! This time, inspired by the many journeys of ambition and self-discovery in This Is Us, we’re tackling one big question: What does it really mean to be successful? From chasing dreams and career milestones to fulfillment, purpose, and legacy, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris reflect on how their definitions of success have evolved over the years. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * How their definitions of success have shifted from external achievement to personal fulfillment * The difference between being successful and feeling successful * Why our brains naturally fixate on failure and how encouragement can quiet the inner critic * The role childhood competition, sports, and early ambition played in shaping their drive * Fame versus fulfillment, and how public recognition differs from lasting happiness * The career milestones that made them feel like they had finally ""made it"" * Why longevity, meaningful work, and the respect of your peers…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 6, Episode 2: “One Giant Leap.” From Deja's life-changing weekend with Malik to Nicky's search for a love he never forgot, the episode explores first love, second chances, and the hope that keeps us moving forward. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Waiting for the right person versus the right time when it comes to intimacy * Chris's unforgettable (and now admittedly creepy) road trips in pursuit of romance * How making amends can reveal just how much we've changed over time * The lasting impact of criticism and why one comment can change how we see ourselves They also break down the episode, including: * Deja secretly traveling to Boston to spend the weekend with Malik * Meeting Malik's ex, Jennifer, and stepping into the realities of his life as a father * Deja preparing for her “first time” * Malik's tenderness, patience, and reassurance during one of the biggest moments of Deja's life * Nicky, Rebecca, and Miguel's road trip to find…

This week on That Was Us, we’re beyond excited to welcome cinematographer Yasu Tanida, the visionary behind the distinctive look of This Is Us. Yasu takes us behind the camera to reveal how he helped create the show's signature visual language, from its soft and nostalgic aesthetic to the intimate handheld style that made viewers feel like they were living alongside the Pearson family. In this episode, Yasu chats about: * How he developed the iconic visual style of This Is Us and why the show was designed to feel like a memory * The handheld camerawork and lens choices that helped create intimacy with the Pearson family * Working to “detune” lenses and create the soft, dreamy glow seen throughout the series * The role color palette, framing, and composition play in creating the show's nostalgic tone * Why the camera often sits outside rooms, quietly observing the characters * Collaborating with the lighting team to create beautiful images * The technical considerations of lighting different skin tones * His…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 6, Episode 1: “The Challenger.” Through the lens of one of America’s most shocking tragedies, the episode explores how children process grief, fear, and uncertainty. From the Challenger explosion, to Randall’s need to save others, to Rebecca’s growing memory loss, this episode reminds us that the moments we never fully understand as kids often stay with us forever. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * The surprising return of Pop-Tarts (including the new protein-packed versions) * Their own childhood lemonade stand successes (and failures) * Talking to young children about death, grief, and mortality * How kids process difficult events differently at different ages * Getting older, staying healthy, and confronting our own mortality They also break down the episode, including: * The Challenger disaster and why it became such a defining moment for a generation * How Kevin, Kate, and Randall each react differently to the tragedy * Rebecca's…

This week on That Was Us…we’re back with another Chat Was Us! Inspired by the many love stories that have defined This Is Us, from Jack and Rebecca to Beth and Randall, the hosts gather for another Group Chat episode centered around one big theme: romantic love. From first crushes and first heartbreaks to soulmates, red flags, and the realities of long-term partnership, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris reflect on how their understanding of love has evolved over the years. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * How their definitions of romantic love have changed from their teens to middle age * Their first experiences with romantic love and the awkward, unforgettable stories that came with them * Whether soulmates really exist or if lasting love is a choice you make every day * How movies, rom-coms, and pop culture shaped unrealistic expectations about relationships * The impact of films like The Notebook, Say Anything, and Love Actually on how we think about romance * Why kindness, intelligence, and emotional…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 16: “The Adirondacks,” with special guest Chris Geere AKA Phillip! What begins as Kevin and Madison’s wedding day quickly becomes one of the most emotional turning points of the series, as long-buried fears, hard truths, and questions about what love really means come to the surface. As some relationships move forward, others are forced to confront whether love alone is enough. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * The realities of co-parenting and finding a path forward after a relationship changes * The shocking flash-forward that reveals Kate’s future husband * And a special interview with Chris Geere, who joins the podcast to discuss playing Phillip, navigating fan reactions, joining This Is Us during COVID, and learning that his character would eventually change the course of Kate’s story They also break down the episode, including: * Madison’s childhood flashbacks and the experiences that shaped her self-worth * Madison…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 15: “Jerry 2.0.” As Kevin heads to the cabin for his bachelor party, old relationships, future plans, and big questions about love come bubbling to the surface. From rom-com fantasies to real-life commitments, the episode explores what happens when the life you imagined doesn’t quite match the life you’re living…and whether love is enough to bridge the gap. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Long-distance relationships and the difficult balance between career ambitions and romantic love * Whether grand romantic gestures are truly romantic—or sometimes a form of love bombing * The pressure modern relationships place on partners to be everything to each other * Marriage, divorce, and the uncertainty of knowing whether you’re choosing the right person * Why some relationships can end without being considered failures They also break down the episode, including: * Kevin’s Jerry Maguire-inspired mission statement and the future he…

This week on That Was Us, we’re joined in studio by Faithe Herman, who grew up before our eyes as Annie Pearson on This Is Us. Joining the series at just eight years old and wrapping at fourteen, Faithe reflects on what it was like to spend her childhood on one of television’s most beloved family dramas, and how the cast became a second family along the way. In this episode, Faithe chats about: • Booking This Is Us as her very first TV pilot audition and the unforgettable callback process • Growing up alongside Eris Baker and Lyric Ross and how their on-screen sibling bond became a real-life friendship • What it was like working with Sterling K. Brown and Susan Kelechi Watson as her TV parents for six seasons • Annie Pearson’s evolution from the quiet observer of the family to one of the show's most emotionally insightful characters • The memorable scene with Ron Cephas Jones and why it helped her see Annie in a new way • Learning the craft of acting as she got older and discovering a genuine passion for…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 14: "The Music and the Mirror." As Beth questions her future after the collapse of her dance studio, Kate searches for purpose and confidence, Kevin reflects on the life he’s building with Madison, and Toby struggles with feeling lost after losing his job. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Chris’s journey from competitive tennis to pickleball * Mandy’s evolving relationship with music and finding her way back to singing * Parenting, communication, and helping kids navigate big emotions and boundaries * Beth’s emotional journey as her dance studio struggles through the pandemic * Randall learning that sometimes support means showing up rather than fixing the problem * Kevin’s disastrous movie screening and growing doubts about his future with Madison * Rebecca and Kate’s emotional reconciliation and the healing of old wounds * Toby’s struggle with unemployment, pride, and asking for help They’re also joined by Abby Romeo and her…

This week on That Was Us, we’re trying something a little different. Inspired by the heart of This Is Us and where we currently are in the rewatch with Kevin and Randall’s reconciliation, the hosts kick off a brand new “Group Chat” format centered around one big theme: siblings! From birth order and family roles to rivalry, resentment, and deep love, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris open up about their own sibling dynamics and the ways those relationships continue to shape who they are today. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Their own sibling dynamics, age gaps, and the roles they played growing up * How birth order can shape personality, ambition, and family identity * Why siblings raised in the same household often feel like they had completely different parents * The ways Kevin, Kate, and Randall mirror real-life sibling dynamics and coping mechanisms * How trauma and major life events can permanently shape sibling relationships * Caring for aging parents and how siblings divide emotional and logistical…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 13: “Brotherly Love.” As Kevin travels to Philadelphia to finally confront the unresolved tension between himself and Randall, the episode explores race, identity, jealousy, and the complicated realities of growing up as brothers who experienced the same childhood very differently. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * The meaning behind Philadelphia being called the “City of Brotherly Love” * What real apologies and amends actually look like * Thoughtlessness vs. overt racism and how those conversations show up in everyday life * Choreographing fights, drunk acting, and Milo’s performance as intoxicated Jack * Personal stories about early adulthood struggles, cheap meals, and figuring life out in your twenties They also break down the episode, including: * Young Randall imagining his “ghost kingdom” parents * Jack taking Kevin and Randall to a taping of Mister Rogers' Neighborhood * Kevin’s resentment over Randall receiving…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 12: “Both Things Can Be True.” As Kevin and Madison’s wedding approaches, the episode explores commitment, family expectations, and the complicated ways people learn to communicate with the ones they love. From Jack’s proposal plans for Rebecca in the past, to Kevin navigating unresolved tension with Randall in the present, the episode asks what it really means to show up for the people you care about. In this episode, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan chat about: * Asking for a partner’s parents’ blessing and whether that tradition still feels meaningful today * Parenting dynamics and the emotional complexity of stay-at-home parenting * The pressure parents can unknowingly place on their children * Digital de-aging, wigs, and the behind-the-scenes magic * Candy Corn: love or hate? They also break down the episode, including: * Miguel helping Jack rehearse his proposal to Rebecca * Miguel defending Jack to Rebecca’s…

This week on That Was Us, we’re so beyond excited to be joined in studio by actor Eris Baker, who grew up playing Tess Pearson on This Is Us! Eris reflects on her journey from child actor to USC film production student, opening up about balancing school and set life, stepping into storytelling behind the camera, and how playing Tess shaped both her personal life and creative voice. In this episode, Eris chats about: * Booking This Is Us at just 10 years old after filming a Target commercial * Growing up on set alongside the cast and forming lifelong bonds with the Black Pearson family * Navigating school while working and missing out on a traditional high school experience * Choosing USC’s film production track and her dream of becoming a creative producer and director * Writing and directing her own short films and the emotional response one of them got from Sterling * Working as a PA on Dan Fogelman’s series Paradise and hustling for internships at production companies * Saying yes to Tess’s coming-out…

This week on That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 11: “One Small Step.” Centered on Uncle Nicky’s journey to meet Kevin and Madison’s twins, the episode explores how the smallest steps can lead to the biggest changes—and how the stories we tell ourselves can shape an entire lifetime. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Media saturation, smartphones, and the idea of going back to a simpler “brick” device * The importance of setting intentional boundaries with technology—for yourself and your kids * How limiting choices can actually lead to more clarity and happiness * Challenging your own “core belief” stories and the narratives that hold you back * The difference between routine and rut—and how to break out of it * The loss of shared cultural moments and what brings people together today They also break down the episode, including: * Nicky’s emotional journey from isolation to connection * His first flight since Vietnam and what it represents * Cassidy helping Nicky prepare for…

This week on That Was Us, we’re thrilled to be joined in studio by actor and director Jennifer Morrison, who brought Cassidy to life on This Is Us. Jennifer reflects on her journey from acting to directing, the challenges of transitioning from fantasy to grounded drama, and how This Is Us unexpectedly changed her life in a very real way. In this episode, Jennifer chats about: * Playing Cassidy across Seasons 4–6 and navigating her place within the Pearson family * The love quadrangle between Cassidy, Kevin, Zoe, and Nicky * Transitioning from Once Upon a Time to the grounded realism of This Is Us * Why she still had to audition for the role—and what that experience taught her * Her evolution from actor to director and why she feels she has more to contribute behind the camera * The intensity of shooting 100 scenes in 12 days * The challenges of proving herself as a director after years of acting * Her early experiences directing short films and her first feature, which sold to Netflix * Her time on House and…

This week on That Was Us, we’re chatting about This Is Us Season 5, Episode 10: “I’ve Got This.” This episode explores the pressures of pride, money, and what it really means to provide for your family. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Survival vs. dreams and how priorities shift in different seasons of life * Lessons they learned from their time on set * Which This Is Us cast member couldn’t resist eating the prop food * Navigating finances, including making more money than your spouse * Deciding where to spend the holidays as your family grows They also break down the episode, including: * Kevin and Madison hosting Kate and Toby for a sushi dinner that unravels * Toby secretly losing his job * Kate thanking Rebecca for a stable childhood * Flashbacks of Jack chasing a promotion and Rebecca stepping in to take over finances * Randall and Beth navigating family dynamics as Carol extends her stay * Tess opening up about dating Alex and Malik seeking advice about co-parenting * Beth and Carol’s…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 9: “The Ride.” As new parents bring their babies home, the episode explores the fears, hopes, and expectations that come with the start of a new chapter for every Pearson family. Across timelines, it’s a reminder that the ride home is where everything begins. In this episode, the hosts chat about: * Sharing their own stressful ride-home and early parenting experiences * The emotional chaos of bringing newborns home across timelines * Jack and Rebecca’s trip home with the triplets * Jack’s anxiety about becoming his father, including the gas station confrontation and his admitted drink * Kevin and Madison navigating paparazzi and the pressure of new parenthood * Kevin’s dream conversation with Jack and his spur-of-the-moment proposal * Kate and Toby bringing home Hailey and Ellie backing out of the open adoption arrangement * Toby revealing that he’s been fired * Future Deja arriving at Randall’s home pregnant and the show’s…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re breaking down This Is Us Season 5, Episode 8: “In The Room.” In this episode recap: * Randall and Beth FaceTime Madison while waiting for updates on Kevin * Kevin arrives at the hospital and tells Madison his family is his priority * Kate and Toby navigate the emotional realities of adoption and their relationship with Ellie, the birth mother * Rebecca and Miguel open up about life after Jack’s death * Esther and Nasir’s story reveals the invention of the Discrete Cosine Transform, the technology behind video calls like FaceTime Plus, Mandy Moore, Chris Sullivan, and Sterling K. Brown discuss: * Working with guest stars like Michael O’Neill * The Mandy moment that sent Chris into a laughing fit * Why partner vacations without kids are so important And writer Vera Herbert joins to talk about: * Her unconventional path into Hollywood * Writers’ room culture * Writing personal grief into This Is Us * The importance of thoughtful adoption representation That Was Us is…

This week on That Was Us, we’re joined by one of the most pivotal people behind This Is Us: casting director Josh Einsohn. Josh reflects on 25 years in casting and shares how he got his start in production, what led him to feel passionate about casting, and how This Is Us ultimately changed his life forever. In this episode, Josh chats about: * His 25-year journey in casting and how he got his start * The role Tommy Lee Jones played early in his career * Working on The Polar Express and The West Wing * Partnering with Tiffany Little Canfield to cast This Is Us * Bringing Jon Huertas onto the show * The pressure of casting multiple ages of the same characters * The urgent recasting of the teen Big Three * How auditions changed after COVID * Casting Griffin Dunne as Nicky * Casting Jennifer Morrison as Cassidy * His advice for actors navigating the industry * How This Is Us influenced his decision to adopt his daughter, Molly" That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 7: "There." The Pearsons confront the pressures passed down through generations as we revisit Jack’s childhood with his father, watch Kevin grapple with what it means to be a “good” dad in the middle of a crisis, and see Madison face the terrifying possibility of bringing the twins into the world alone. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat about their own memorable birth stories, Chris shares one of the most painful things he's ever done, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - David Protein. Don’t just take my word for it – go grab one for yourself. Head to Walmart today to try a bar or stock up on 4 cartons of your favorite flavors, like Blueberry Pie and Salted Peanut Butter, sold exclusively at Walmart. Check out https://Walmart.com to find a store near you! - With Shipt, it’s never just a delivery order –…

This week on That Was Us, we’re bringing you a very special episode recorded live at the historic Wiltern Theater in Los Angeles. In front of an incredible audience of This Is Us fans! It was an unforgettable night of conversation and live music with Sterling K. Brown, Mandy Moore, and Chris Sullivan, as we celebrated one of the most powerful elements of This Is Us: the music. We talked about the songs that shaped some of the show’s most emotional moments, and were joined by the show’s composer, Siddhartha Khosla, as well as the creator of the show, Dan Fogelman, to hear how the score came to life. We also played a live round of Hot Takes with the audience and, of course, the night featured incredible live performances from guests like Taylor Goldsmith, Hannah Zeile, Blake Stadnik, and more, making it a truly special celebration of the music and community that made This Is Us…and That Was Us…so meaningful. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 6: Birth Mother. This episode uncovers the long-buried story of Randall’s birth mother, Laurel. Randall and Beth’s journey to New Orleans reveals inherited grief, unfinished love, and through Hai’s retelling of his love story with Laurel, Randall releases the pain he’s carried his entire life. Plus, we're also joined by one of the writers of this episode, Kay Oyegun! Kay breaks down the writer's room experience on This Is Us, how they broke down important storylines, what it was like discovering Laurel's backstory, how she came to write for this show originally, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. Executive Producers: Natalie Holysz and Rob Holysz Creative Producer: Sam Skelton Production Coordinator: Andrew Rowley Video Editor: Todd Hughlett Mix & Master: Jason Richards This is a ⁠Headgum⁠ podcast. Follow Headgum on ⁠Twitter⁠, ⁠Instagram⁠, and ⁠Tiktok⁠.…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 5: A Long Road Home. The Pearsons confront long-held truths as Kate reckons with a painful chapter from her past, Kevin and Madison face growing uncertainty about their future, and Randall is shaken by new information about his birth mother that challenges everything he thought he knew. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat with Vien Hong who played the character of Hai! Vien talks all about his 20 year hiatus from acting, his family's brave journey to the States, what returning to acting through This Is Us means to him, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Try Zip Recruiter for free at https://ZipRecruiter.com/TWU. ZipRecruiter. The smartest way to hire. - This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Your emotional wellbeing matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. Sign up and get 10%…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 4: Honestly. This episode explores how patterns repeat across generations: from Kevin confronting childhood pressures and insecurities, to Randall stepping into mentorship and turning an uncomfortable moment into purpose, and Kate and Toby navigating the early steps of adoption. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling have fun in the studio chatting about sleep training, how their style has changed, and of course they also welcome 504 writer Elan Mastai to the podcast! Elan talks about how this show came into his life, what it was like moving from Canada to work on the show and how he dealt with that during Covid, and some of his most memorable and impactful moments writing for the show! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Find Unreal products anywhere cravings hit, including at Whole Foods, Target, Costco, and other grocery stores…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 3: Changes. The Pearson family is pushed in new emotional directions: Randall navigates big shifts with Tess; Kevin and Madison confront some hard truths; and Kate and Toby take a meaningful step toward adoption. Meanwhile, new characters reveal there’s more to Laurel’s story. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling give their hot takes on the TV show "Lost," changes on the set of This Is Us post Covid, how they prepare for intimate scenes, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/TWU and get on your way to being your best self. - Head to Walmart today to try a bar or stock up on 4 cartons of your favorite flavors, like Blueberry Pie and Salted Peanut Butter, sold exclusively at Walmart. Check out…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 2: Forty: Part Two. Tensions are running high at the cabin, we continue unraveling the events surrounding The Big Three’s birth, and we learn a surprising revelation about Randall’s biological mother. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling have fun in the studio recalling moments they couldn't stop laughing on set, the moments from this episode that deeply impacted them, and more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to https://Quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. - Try Zip Recruiter for free at https://ZipRecruiter.com/TWU. ZipRecruiter. The smartest way to hire. - Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, to claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 1: Forty: Part One. It’s The Big Three's 40th birthday, and everyone heads to the cabin to quarantine and celebrate the big milestone, except Randall. We also jump back to the day The Big Three were born, exploring the parallels between Jack and William’s experience as new fathers, and uncovering the powerful backstory of Randall’s birth mother, Laurel. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat to the lovely Jennifer C. Holmes! She joins the hosts in-studio to talk all about Laurel's character, how she got the part, and her favorite memories from filming. They also chat about the shift they felt returning to set as first-time parents, what it was like filming during Covid, how the show successfully started conversations about difficult topics, and more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - This episode is sponsored by/brought to…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 18: Strangers: Part Two. In the season four finale, Randall and Kevin’s relationship reaches its breaking point, Madison shares news that changes everything, and Kate and Toby make a decision that redefines their family. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk about times in life when they've had a personal argument with family members, the impact Kevin and Randall's fight had on them individually, and the beauty of life: the good, the bad, and the joyful. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to https://NakedWines.com/TWU and use code TWU for both the code AND PASSWORD. - Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus. David has officially launched nationwide at Walmart. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is. - Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 17: After the Fire. While in therapy, Randall begins to imagine what life might have looked like if Jack had survived the house fire, revealing just how differently the Pearsons’ lives could have turned out. This week on the podcast we also have a very exciting guest join us in studio, the one and only Pamela Adlon! Pamela talks about her time playing Dr. Leigh on the show, what she remembers about working with Sterling in her scenes, fun memories from filming, her hilarious Oprah story, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Make home the best part of life. Head to https://cozyearth.com and use our code TWU for up to 20% off. -Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus. David has officially launched nationwide at Walmart. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is.…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 16: New York, New York, New York. Rebecca and Randall join Kevin in New York for his movie premiere, but the night takes an emotional turn. Through flashbacks of the Pearsons’ family trip to New York and again when the Big Three are in college, we see how The Met became such a meaningful place for Rebecca, and how those memories resurface when she’s faced with what comes next. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat about their behind the scenes memories of filming in New York, what happened one sleepless night, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Refresh your wardrobe with Quince. Go to https://Quince.com/twu for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. - Go to https://Leesa.com for 25% off PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TWU ------------------------- 🍋 About…

Happy New Year and welcome back to the pod! We’re excited for 2026 and all the fun episodes coming your way! On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 15: Clouds. Kevin and Rebecca spend the day checking off experiences she’s always dreamed of, including a visit to Joni Mitchell’s old home, right before Rebecca receives her official diagnosis. Meanwhile, Randall is reluctant to open up in his therapy session, and Kate and Toby reconnect in their marriage. On the podcast, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling chat about how you present yourself to the world, wanting to be a good person, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus David has officially launched nationwide at Walmart. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is. This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online…

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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 14: The Cabin. As the Big Three reunite at the family cabin, old wounds reopen, including flashbacks to Kate’s toxic relationship with Marc, and a rediscovered time capsule gives them a long-lost piece of Jack. Plus, here to join the discussion is the Director of this episode, Catherine Hardwicke (Twilight, Thirteen, Lords of Dogtown)! Catherine chats about her memories of filming with the cast at the cabin, the drawing she created that’s featured in the episode, and so much more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe againstcovered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month. Go to https://HomeServe.com tofind the plan that’s right for you. Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 13: A Hell of a Week: Part Three, and you guessed it...the amazing Hannah Zeile joins us in studio to chat about teen Kate's storyline in the last episode of this trilogy! As Kate heads to a retreat for parents of visually-impaired children and Toby stays behind, the fate of their marriage weighs on her mind. Rebecca joins Kate and has a heart-to-heart about her diagnosis, and through flashbacks, we see teen Kate navigating a toxic relationship with Marc. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus You can also find David on Amazon and at local retailers—just use the store locator on their website. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is. - Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 12: A Hell of a Week: Part Two. The one and only Logan Shroyer, AKA teen Kevin, joins us for a rewatch in the studio to chat about the most memorable parts of this episode, answer fan questions, and more! This episode shifts the focus to Kevin, as a call from Sophie brings old memories and unfinished feelings to the surface. Through flashbacks and emotional moments in the present, we see Kevin face his past and try to find clarity about his future. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase. -Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe against covered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month. Go to https://HomeServe.com to find the plan that’s right…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 11: A Hell of a Week: Part One — and we have a very special guest joining us in studio: Niles Fitch, AKA teen Randall! Niles sits down with Mandy, Sterling, and Chris to break down the episode, share behind-the-scenes stories, and answer fan questions. This episode of This Is Us kicks off a three-part arc centered on the Big Three, starting with Randall. After an intruder breaks into his home, Randall is thrown into a spiral of anxiety that unearths long-buried fears. Through flashbacks to childhood and college, we see how a lifetime of holding everything together for everyone else finally brings him to a breaking point. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase. - Help…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 10: Light and Shadows. Randall supports Rebecca as she is faced with a difficult truth at her doctor’s appointment, Kate and Toby acknowledge the growing distance between them, and Kevin takes a woman on an elaborate first date. In the past, Jack and Rebecca finally say, “I love you.” Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling talk about relationships, passion vs. stability, long term love, and more! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to https://Bombas.com and use code TWU for 20% off your first purchase. - Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, to claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout - Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 9: So Long, Marianne. If there's one holiday the Pearsons love...it's Thanksgiving! Today we dive into another memorable holiday with the entire Pearson family (and a few special guests) who come together at Randall and Beth’s new home in Philly. Rebecca grapples with her memory, Tess confides in Kevin about her journey of coming out, and Deja shares an emotional reunion with her mom. In the past, Jack and Nicky begin a tradition that will be carried on for generations to come. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Buy four cartons and get the fifth free, at https://davidprotein.com/thatwasus You can also find David on Amazon and at local retailers—just use the store locator on their website. Humans aren’t perfect, but David is. - Brought to you by Bombas, One Clothing Item Purchased = One Clothing Item Donated Head over to…

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 4, Episode 8: Sorry. Kevin is forced to reckon with himself after getting intimate with Cassidy, Kate leans on her newfound friendship with her neighbor, and Randall and Beth navigate new parenting challenges. In the past, Rebecca gets a new job, taking a step toward rebuilding her life. In this episode, Mandy, Sterling, and Chris chat with Timothy Omundson who played Gregory, Kate and Toby’s Neighbor! Gregory talks all about the stroke that changed his life, how This Is Us creator Dan Fogelman has given him the best creative and career opportunities, and the impact he wanted his character to have on audiences. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, to claim, visit https://www.article.com/twu and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout - Keep it…